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		<title>Dupa un an</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 24 May 2010 14:35:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[experiente oftalmologice]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lentile]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[optica]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[A trecut aproape un an de cand am trecut prin experientele &#8220;oftalmologice&#8221; care m-au determinat sa creez acest blog. Din pacate nu am avut timpul necesar sa ma ocup de el cum mi-as fi dorit, dar am incercat sa va raspund cat mai repede la email-uri si comentarii. Astazi am verificat statisticile blogului: 3,260 de [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ochelarii.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8681938&amp;post=37&amp;subd=ochelarii&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A trecut aproape un an de cand am trecut prin experientele &#8220;oftalmologice&#8221; care m-au determinat sa creez acest blog. Din pacate nu am avut timpul necesar sa ma ocup de el cum mi-as fi dorit, dar am incercat sa va raspund cat mai repede la email-uri si comentarii. Astazi am verificat statisticile blogului: 3,260 de vizitatori in cele 11 luni de cand e activ. Sper ca asta inseamna ca au fost cat de cat utile informatiile prezentate aici.</p>
<p>Eu voi fi in continuare aici daca vreti sa-mi scrieti despre experientele voastre cu opticile din Romania sau daca va pot ajuta cu alte informatii.</p>
<p>PS inca port <a href="http://ochelarii.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/experienta-sover/" target="_blank">ochelarii de la Sover</a> <img src='http://s1.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> . Lentilele nu s-au zgariat, rama e ca noua, desi ii port tot timpul. Si-au meritat pe deplin banii.</p>
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		<title>Probleme cu ochelari de vedere &#8211; diverse informatii utile</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 10:42:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<category><![CDATA[calitatea lentilelor]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Inca o persoana a luat atitudine fata de lipsa de seriozitate a opticilor de la noi si a scris un articol pe aceasta tema. In afara de povestea propriu-zisa, acolo gasiti si cateva informatii foarte utile: lentilele de plastic versus lentilele de sticla; despre ramele pe jumatate de lentila; la ce trebuie sa fiti atenti [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ochelarii.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8681938&amp;post=32&amp;subd=ochelarii&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Inca o persoana a luat atitudine fata de lipsa de seriozitate a opticilor de la noi si a scris un articol pe aceasta tema. In afara de povestea propriu-zisa, acolo gasiti si cateva informatii foarte utile:</p>
<ul>
<li>lentilele de plastic versus lentilele de sticla;</li>
<li>despre ramele pe jumatate de lentila;</li>
<li>la ce trebuie sa fiti atenti legat de calitatea lentilelor si a montarii ochelarilor;</li>
<li>cum sa va feriti de lentilele de proasta calitate;</li>
<li>cerintele ca o reteta de la optician sa fie valida;</li>
<li>ce trebuie sa primiti odata cu ochelarii (certificatul de garantie, instructiuni de folosire);</li>
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<p>Ii multumim lui Adrian pentru aceste informatii si va recomandam sa cititi articolul lui:</p>
<p><a href="http://adiz.weblog.ro/2009-08-31/935984/probleme-ochelari-de-vedere.html">http://adiz.weblog.ro/2009-08-31/935984/probleme-ochelari-de-vedere.html</a></p>
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		<title>Cateva linkuri &#8211; pareri despre opticile din Bucuresti</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Jul 2009 09:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[General]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[catavencu]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[evenimentul zilei]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[lentile de contact]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[ochelari]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[Am adunat cateva linkuri, sper utile, despre diversele optici din Bucuresti (si nu numai). In principal sunt experiente ale clientilor, bune si rele. Va recomand sa urmariti si data la care au fost scrise si comentariile din josul paginilor (nu numai articolele principale), ca sa va completati parerile. Articol din ziarul online Catavencu &#8211; 24 [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ochelarii.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8681938&amp;post=20&amp;subd=ochelarii&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Am adunat cateva linkuri, sper utile, despre diversele optici din Bucuresti (si nu numai). In principal sunt experiente ale clientilor, bune si rele. Va recomand sa urmariti si data la care au fost scrise si comentariile din josul paginilor (nu numai articolele principale), ca sa va completati parerile.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.catavencu.ro/sa_orbim_cu_optinova-9192.html" target="_blank">Articol din ziarul online Catavencu &#8211; 24 iulie 2009</a> (titlu: Sa orbim cu Optinova)</p>
<p><a href="http://usintricacy.blogspot.com/2007/04/incompetenta-optinova.html" target="_blank">O pagina de blog despre diversele aspecte ale problemelor Optinova</a> (titlu: Incompetenta Optinova)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.evz.ro/articole/detalii-articol/832646/CONSECINTE-Dureri-insuportabile-de-la-ochelarii-prescrisi-gresit-/" target="_blank">Articol din ziarul online Evenimentul Zilei</a>, preluat si de <a href="http://www.realitatea.net/consecinte--dureri-insuportabile-de-la-ochelarii-prescrisi-gresit_415796.html" target="_blank">Realitatea</a> &#8211; decembrie 2008 (titlu: Dureri insuportabile de la ochelarii prescrisi gresit)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.consumatoronline.ro/Article8227.phtml" target="_blank">Articol din Jurnalul National despre o ilegalitati anchetate la Optinova</a> (titlu: Ochi expirati la Optinova)</p>
<p><a href="http://forum.desprecopii.com/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=113275" target="_blank">Alti clienti nemultumiti de Optinova &#8211; ianuarie 2008</a> (titlu: Teapa de la Optinova)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.reno.ro/Ochelari-de-vedere-t124339.html" target="_blank">Diverse discutii despre ochelari de vedere &#8211; de unde, cat, cum</a> &#8211; septembrie 2008 (titlu: <strong></strong>Ochelari de vedere, de unde? cat? cum?)</p>
<p><a href="http://www.mediafax.ro/blog/social/pacientul-roman/" target="_blank">Consecintele unor dioptrii prescrise prost la Optinova</a> (titlu: Pacientul roman)</p>
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		<title>Experienta Sover</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 18:15:36 +0000</pubDate>
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				<category><![CDATA[Asa da]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[certificat garantie]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[cora]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[dioptrii]]></category>
		<category><![CDATA[hoya]]></category>
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		<category><![CDATA[optinova]]></category>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Sunt inca in Romania?&#8221; Aceasta este intrebarea pe care mi-am pus-o la inceputul experientei Sover, pentru ca nu-mi venea sa cred cat de amabil si placut era personalul de acolo. Am fost mai intai la sediul Sover din magazinul Unirea (parter), pentru consultatie. Deoarece tocmai veneam de la Optinova cu niste ochelari pe care nu [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ochelarii.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8681938&amp;post=15&amp;subd=ochelarii&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Sunt inca in Romania?&#8221; Aceasta este intrebarea pe care mi-am pus-o la inceputul experientei <a href="http://www.sover.ro/" target="_blank">Sover</a>, pentru ca nu-mi venea sa cred cat de amabil si placut era personalul de acolo.</p>
<p>Am fost mai intai la sediul Sover din magazinul Unirea (parter), pentru consultatie. Deoarece tocmai veneam de la <a href="http://ochelarii.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/experienta-optinova/" target="_blank">Optinova cu niste ochelari pe care nu puteam sa-i port</a>, iar in urma consultatiei Sover rezultatele au fost diferite de cele Optinova, medicul mi-a propus sa facem analize mai amanuntite. Astfel, am repetat de trei ori consultatia, in zile diferite, cu si fara picaturile speciale cu atropina si cu mai multe aparate. De fiecare data rezultatele au iesit identice intre ele, dar diferite de cele Optinova. Mentionez faptul ca medicul acesta a avut foarte multa rabdare si mi-a explicat ce ma interesa. Mai ales la final, cand trebuia sa ma hotarasc intre 0.75 si 1 cilindric, mi-a schimbat de o multime de ori lentilele intre ele si m-a lasat sa stau suficient de mult cu ele ca sa-mi dau seama cat de bine vad cu ele la apropiere / distanta si daca ma obosesc sau nu.</p>
<p>Probabil va ganditi ca toata aceasta consultatie in 3 etape a fost mult mai scumpa decat la Optinova. Nu, a fost exact aceeasi suma.</p>
<p>Dupa consultatie urma sa-mi aleg ramele, doar ca nu am gasit un model care sa-mi placa (nu aveau foarte multe modele acolo). Din fericire, am ajuns la sediul Sover din Cora, unde au foarte foarte multe modele, de diverse preturi. Iar ce mi-a placut mult este ca erau toate expuse si puteau fi probate direct, lejer, fara stresul de a sacai vanzatorii. Astfel ca am stat aproape o ora acolo tot proband rame, iar spre final, vazand probabil ca nu reusesc sa ma hotarasc, un angajat Sover, in stilul amabil caracteristic, a venit sa ma ajute si impreuna am gasit o rama exact cum imi doream.</p>
<p>Am plecat cu rama la sediul de la Unirea, am facut comanda de lentile cu diverse feluri de protectie. Cand am fost sa ridic ochelarii, am primit un certificat de garantie si ambalajele de la lentile, care sa le confirme autenticitatea (marca Hoya) &#8211; practic toate informatiile ce ar trebui stiute despre ochelarii comandati. Pretul a fost putin mai mare decat cel Optinova, dar rama era mai rezistenta, iar lentilele erau de la o firma cu renume, cu ceva straturi protectoare in plus. Deci lucruri de o calitate ridicata la un pret accesibil.</p>
<p>Port ochelarii Sover de cateva luni si sunt foarte multumit de ei.</p>
<p>CONCLUZII:</p>
<p>1. Sover &#8211; nota 10 din partea mea.</p>
<p>2. Exista si servicii de calitate in Romania, doar ca nu reusim din prima sa le gasim.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 13:41:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Din lipsa de timp pentru a ma informa, m-am oprit in prima optica ce mi-a aparut in cale: Optinova (sediul de la Lujerului &#8211; Militari). Nu stiam nimic despre ei si am acceptat sa fac o consultatie acolo, urmata de ochelari. Dupa consultatia rapida, mi-am ales ramele si am comandat lentilele, in total 450 roni. [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ochelarii.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8681938&amp;post=6&amp;subd=ochelarii&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Din lipsa de timp pentru a ma informa, m-am oprit in prima optica ce mi-a aparut in cale: Optinova (sediul de la Lujerului &#8211; Militari). Nu stiam nimic despre ei si am acceptat sa fac o consultatie acolo, urmata de ochelari. Dupa consultatia rapida, mi-am ales ramele si am comandat lentilele, in total 450 roni. Nu mi-am dat seama daca e mult sau putin, deoarece singura pereche de ochelari pe care o aveam era cumparata acum multi ani.</p>
<p>Dupa cateva zile, am ridicat ochelarii (dar fara niciun fel de garantie sau informatii despre lentile, deci e foarte posibil ca erau no name, made in china etc). Am incercat bineinteles sa-i port (erau pentru purtat permanent), dar a fost groaznic, aveam dureri foarte mari de cap si de ochi, simteam ca ametesc. Dupa ce m-am chinuit cateva zile, am revenit la sediul Optinova sa explic situatia, dar nu am reusit sa rezolv nimic. Practic mi s-a spus sa indur in continuare, deoarece ochelarii sunt perfecti. Chiar mi s-a spus pe un ton relativ batjocoritor ca pot sa merg la orice alta optica sa verific asta. Am fost bineinteles la alta optica (anume Sover), am refacut consultatia si &#8230; surpriza (sau nu) &#8211; rezultate diferite.</p>
<p>Voi scrie in alt post despre aceasta <a href="http://ochelarii.wordpress.com/2009/07/22/experienta-sover/" target="_blank">a doua experienta</a>, cea de la Sover, din care a rezultat alta pereche de ochelari, pe care ii port cu mare placere de cateva luni. Diferentele de dioptrii nu erau, la prima vedere, foarte mari pe hartie (0.5 cilindric si 0.5 sferic fata de 0.75 cilindric).  Dar in realitate, era diferenta intre a nu putea purta ochelarii si a fii foarte multumit de ei.</p>
<p>Am revenit pentru a treia oara la Optinova si le-am explicat din nou problema, de data aceasta cu dovezile clare de la cealalta optica. Angajatii Optinova au incercat sa ma convinga in continuare ca ochelarii de la ei sunt buni (probabil din inertie), dar in final am facut o reclamatie prin care-mi ceream banii inapoi pe ochelari. Din pacate, nu mi-au dat voie sa scriu exact ce voiam, mi-au spus sa adopt modul ambiguu de prezentare a problemei pe care-l vor ei, ca sa nu creada sefii ca nu au procedat cum trebuie.</p>
<p>Dupa o luna de asteptari, a venit raspunsul la reclamatie: ochelarii au fost montati conform prescriptiei, deci cererea mea este nefondata. Ciudat. Era clar ca ochelarii erau montati conform prescriptiei, problema era cu totul alta &#8211; prescriptia era gresita</p>
<p>Practic nu era vorba de bani, suma nu era mare, dar imi venea greu sa accept ca am ramas cu un produs prost, poate chiar daunator. Asa ca m-am gandit sa incerc sa trimit o scrisoare pe numele firmei, sperand ca va ajunge in mainile unei persoane &#8220;interesate&#8221; de nemultumirea mea. Am explicat ce anume s-a intamplat si mi-am exprimat indignarea fata de situatie.</p>
<p>Dupa ceva timp, am primit un telefon prin care mi s-a comunicat ca domnul director de la Optinova doreste sa merg sa-i spun personal povestea si sa rezolvam intr-un fel sau altul problema. Si astfel am ajuns fata in fata cu aceasta persoana, care mi s-a parut mult mai amabila si mai receptiva decat angajatii de la Optinova Lujerului. Dupa multe explicatii si argumentari atat de o parte, cat si de alta, domnul director s-a oferit sa-mi inlocuiasca lentilele de la ochelarii Optinova dupa reteta de la Sover, ramanandu-mi si lentilele initiale, plus un fel de &#8220;cadou&#8221; de 200 roni din care sa-mi cumpar ce vreau de la magazinele lor. Asta in locul restituirii banilor, deoarece dumnealui nu dorea sa ma piarda ca si client.</p>
<p>Dragut din partea dumneavoastra, doar ca acest gest nu mai valoreaza nimic dupa atata timp pierdut si atatia nervi. Iar drept client m-ati pierdut demult si definitiv.</p>
<p>CONCLUZII:</p>
<p>1. Legat de Optinova, concluziile le trageti singuri, asa cum hotararea de a apela la serviciile lor va apartine.</p>
<p>2. Luptati pentru drepturile voastre de clienti. Daca fiecare client nemultumit ia atitudine, sunt convins ca nivelul calitatii serviciilor din Romania va creste. Poate nu mult, dar sigur va creste.</p>
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		<title>Un blog despre unde sa ne facem si unde sa nu ne facem ochelari sau consultatii oftalmologice</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Jul 2009 12:14:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Salut! Sunt un simplu cetatean din Bucuresti si in urma cu cateva luni mi-am dat seama ca nu mai vad bine si am hotarat sa merg la o consultatie oftalmologica, eventual sa-mi comand ochelari. A fost o adevarata aventura, despre care m-am hotarat sa scriu pe acest blog, in speranta ca poate cuiva ii vor [...]<img alt="" border="0" src="http://stats.wordpress.com/b.gif?host=ochelarii.wordpress.com&amp;blog=8681938&amp;post=1&amp;subd=ochelarii&amp;ref=&amp;feed=1" width="1" height="1" />]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Salut!</p>
<p>Sunt un simplu cetatean din Bucuresti si in urma cu cateva luni mi-am dat seama ca nu mai vad bine si am hotarat sa merg la o consultatie oftalmologica, eventual sa-mi comand ochelari. A fost o adevarata aventura, despre care m-am hotarat sa scriu pe acest blog, in speranta ca poate cuiva ii vor fi utile informatiile si parerile.</p>
<p>Ii rog pe cei care au de impartasit experiente oftalmologice, in special, sau legate de protectia consumatorului, sa imi trimita un mail pe adresa and.i.lust la gmail.com, ca eu sa le pot scrie aici.</p>
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